Minutes of the meeting of the Committee set up to Examine Feasibility of Implementation of Recommendation of the 7th CPC for Revision of Pension of Pre 2016 Pensioners held on 06.10.2016 & Genl. Secy NC JCM letter to Secy. (Pension) GOI

No.38/37/2016-P&PW(A)

Government of India

Ministry of Personnel, P.G. and Pensions

Department of Pension & Pensioner’s Welfare

3rd Floor, Lok Nayak Bhavan

New Delhi, datyed the 10th October 2016

OFFICE MEMORANDUM

Subject: Minutes of the sixth meeting of the Committee set up to examine feasibility of implementation of recommendation of the 7th CPC for revision of pension of pre 2016 pensioners held on 06.10.2016 – reg.

The Minutes of the sixth meeting of the Committee set up to examine feasibility of implementation of recommendation of the 7th CPC for revision of pension of pre 2016 pensioners held under the Chairmanship of Secretary (Pension) with JCM (Staff Side) on 6.10.2016 at Sardar Patel Bhawan, New Delhi is hereby forwarded for information and further necessary action.

Sd/-

(Harjit Singh)

Director (Pension Policy)

Minutes of the meeting of the Committee set up to examine feasibility of implementation of recommendation of Seventh CPC for revision of pension of Pre-2016 pensioners held on 6.10.2016 at Sardar Patel Bhawan, New Delhi.

The 6th Meeting of the committee for examination of feasibility of implementation of recommendations of Seventh Central Pay Commission for revision of pension of pre-2016 pensioners was held under the Chairmanship of Shri C, Viswanath, Secretary (Pension) on 6.10.2016 at Sardar Patel Bhawan, New Delhi This meeting was called for seeking the views of the Staff side of JCM on the feasibility of implementation of the first option for revision of pension of pre 2016 pensioners recommended by the Seventh Central Pay Commission.

2. The following were present from official side:

1. Sh. Ashok Kumar Dash, Member (Personnel), Department of Posts.

2. Ms. Santosh, Joint Secretary, Department of Ex-Servicemen Welfare,

3. Sh. Rozy Agarwal, Joint CGDA, Ministry of Defence,

4. Sh. R. K. Chaturvedi, Joint Secretary, Implementation Cell, Department of Expenditure,

5. Sh. Sanjay Singh, Chief Controller (Pension), CPAO (representing Controller General of Accounts).

6. Sh. Tanveer Ahmed, Executive Director, Railway Board (representing Member (Staff)).

3. The following were present from JCM ( staff side):

1. Shri Shiv Gopal Mishra, Secretary, JCM.

2. Shri Guman Singh, Member

3. Shri J. R. Bhosale, Member

4. Shri K.K. N, Kutty, Member

5. Shri C. Srikurnar. Member

6. Shri R. D. Gupta, Member

4. Welcoming Members of the Committee and the representatives of JCM (Staff Side), Secretary (Pension) requested Additional Secretary (Pension) to make a presentation.

5. In her presentation, Add! Secretary (Pension) brought out the position regarding the requirement of records and the factors which may affect the feasibility of arriving at the notional pay in Seventh CPC by counting increments in the last scale of pay as recommended by the Pay . Commission. She also mentioned about the anomalies that are likely to arise in the process. The presentation brought out the methodology adopted by the Committee to examine the feasibility of the first option and the finding of the Committee in this regard. She mentioned that the service records for increment method may not be available in around 18.3% of the cases. The difficulties in extracting the information from the records and determining the exact number of the increments for revision of pension under first option were explained. She indicated that the Committee has found that the alternative method of arriving at notional pay in Seventh CPC by applying formula for pay revision for serving employees in each Pay Commission and giving 50% of this as pension to be beneficial to all pensioners in comparison to the fitrnent method.

6. Thereafter, Secretary (Pension) requested the Members of the JCM (Staff Side) for their views on the feasibility of the first option.

7. The representative of the JCM (Staff side) mentioned that in their representation to the Seventh Commission, they had suggested revision of pension of pre-200B pensioners by notional Pay Fixation in each successive pay Commission period. However, the Pay Commission recommended the revision of pension by fixing the notional pay on the basis of increments earned in the last post

8. The JCM (Staff side) mentioned that the Cabinet has approved revision of pension by the first option (increment method), if its implementation is found feasible after examination by the Committee. They mentioned that in addition to the Service Book/ Personal File, the details of increments earned can be ascertained from the Gradation/Seniority List issued by the Departments from time to time. Therefore, one cannot say that the first option recommended by the Pay Commission is not feasible on the grounds of non-availability of records. In regard to the perceived anomalies, the Staff side stated that anomalies arose in implementation of the recommendations of all previous Pay Commissions. Such anomalies can always be rectified through the mechanism of Anomaly Committee.

9, On the alternate method of revision of pension by notional pay fixation in each Pay Commission, the Staff side felt that the pensioners who are likely to get higher benefit by increments method may not accept revision ‘of pension by pay fixation method. This may, therefore, lead to litigation.

10. After detailed discussion, the staff side sought time to consider the alternate method of fixation of notional pay in each intervening Pay Commission for revision of pension as on 1.1.2016 before submitting their final views in this regard. It was, accordingly, decided to have another meeting with the JCM (Staff side) on 17.10.2016 at 10.00 A.M.

11. The meeting ended with a vote of thanks to the chair.

7th CPC recommendation – Pay determination in the case of Pre-2016 pensioners – Option No. I Examination of feasibility – NC JCM Staff Side

Shiva Gopal Mishra

Secretary

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National Council (Staff Side)

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NC-JCM-2016/7th CPC (Pension)

October 17, 2016

The Secretary,

Department of Pension & Pensioners Welfare,

Govt. of India,

Sardar Patel Bhawan, New Delhi.

Dear Sir,

Sub: 7th CPC recommendation. Pay determination in the case of Pre-2016 pensioners. Option No. I Examination of feasibility.

Ref: Minutes of the meeting of the Committee in F.No.38/37/2016 P&PW(A) Dated 10th October, 2016

We refer to the discussions held On 6.10.2016 in matter of feasibility Of acting upon the 7thy CPC recommendations (Option No. I) in the matter of pension computation and the minutes circulated under cover of the letter cited. At the outset, we would like to slate that the members of the Staff Side, Who were associated with the discussions, gained an impression that the Pension Department would not like to implement the recommendation of the 7th CPC concerning Option No.1 provided to the pensioners in determination or the revised pension. As has been pointed out by us during the discussions on 6t October, the Government has accepted the said recommendation with a rider of its feasibility of implementation. The attempt, therefore, must be to explore the and means of implementing the said recommendation, which benefits a large number of retired personnel, especially those retired prior to 1996. It is, therefore. highly doubtful how any alternate proposal in replacement of the accepted recommendation would be tenable.

We have the matter considered by various Pensioners Associations as also the Federations of the Serving employees. We enumerate here under the feed- back we have received:

Even according to the exercise carried out by the Pension department, only in of the cases, the service Books are reported to have been available. Conversely it means that in 82% of the cases the records are available to operationalize Option No.1. Besides, we find that on the basis of a random scrutiny that only 40% (Percentage varies from Department to Department depending upon the then prevailing career prospects) generally will opt to have pension fixation under the provisions of option No.I. It Will work out to hardly 7% of the cases, where Service Books might not be available. As has been pointed out in the last meeting Gradation/Seniority list is maintained for each Cadre by the Concerned Department, where the date of promotion to the cadre inter alia is indicated. The said gradation list will reveal many other details viz the date or birth, dale of entry into government service, date of promotion to the cadre, whether eligible for next promotion, due or superannuation cte. This apart there are other documents maintained by the Department, which will come in handy for verification of the clam, viz, the pay bills. Establishment files containing promotion orders etc. In other words it is possible to the claim of my individual pensioner or family and take appropriate decision. In other words, there is no infeasibility question at all. It was also pointed out by many organisations that retention period of Service Books in all major Departments or the Government of India is 5 years after the death of the Pensioner/Family Pensioner and not 3 years after retirement as indicated by the Official side at the meeting. This apart, it may also he noted that the option has to be exercised by the concerned individual pensioner and he has to make a formal application to the concerned authorities. He is bound to substantiate his claim with documentary proof, whatever that is available with him.

As was pointed out by some of us in the last meeting, the implementation of an accepted recommendation on the specious plea of infeasibility will pave way for plethora of litigation. Apart from the administrative diffculties, the Pension Department would be saddled With if such litigation arise, it would be sad and cruel on the part of the Government to compel the pensioners to bear huge financial burden to pursue their case before the courts of law.

In view of this the Staff side is of the firm view that the Government issue orders for implementation of Option No.I as there is no room for stating that recommendation is impossible to be implemented for those who are benefited by the said option.

We are aware that certain anomalies are bound to arise on implementation of option No.I. Anomalies have arisen in the past too. What is needed is to examine those anomalies and ensure thal those are genuinely addressed.

It may be noted that even under the present dispensation, no two Govemment servants are entitled for the same pension despite they being retired on from the same grade on the same day. The promotion in lower cadres especially Group B, C and D had been and between a decade back in many departments and continues to be the situation in certain organisations or the Government of India. The vacancy based promotion system, one must admit, operates in a fortuitous manner. For no fault of the individual employee, he/she may retire without getting a whereas his colleague due to sheer luck might get the promotion at the fag end of the career.

The case of those employees retired prior to the advent of ACP or MACP is really pathetic. Thet had to remain in certain departments in the same cadres for years together. “Tuey are in receipt of a paltry amount of pension though there is nothing distinguishable in their service careers for such deprivation. To deny them the benefit provided by the 7th CPC on the specious plea that the relevant records are not available with the Government may not only be unreasonable but also will not stand the test of judicial scrutiny.

As have stated in the meeting, the alternative suggestion put forth by the official side is a welcome feature , for it might be step in the right direction to remove the anomaly pointed out by the official side when Option No-I is implemented and will benefit those pensioners who got their promotion the end of their career. It is also likely to bring about certain extent of parity, if not full, between the old and the pensioners. However it cannot be in replacement of the recommendation in respect or Option No.1 made by the 7th CPC. The alternate suggestion of the Pension Department may be offered as another option to the pensioners who are not benefited either by Option No.1 or 2 recommended by the 7th CPC. Such an option will eliminate to a great extent the anomalies that might arise from the implementation of option No.1.

In fine, we request that:

The Pensioners/family pensioners may be allowed to choose any one of the following three options;

(a) 2.57 time of the pension if that is beneficial.

(b) Option No.1. Recommended by the 7th CPC, if that is beneficial for them.

(c) To determine the Pension on tbe basis of the suggestion placed by the Pension Department on 6.10.2016 i.e. extension of the benefit of pension determination recommended by the 5th CPC (viz. arriving at notional pay in the 7th CPC by applying formula for pay revision for serving employees in each Pay Commission and consequent pension fixation) to all pre-2016 Pensioners/family pensioners, if that becomes beneficial to them.

Yours Faithfully,

sd/-

(Shiva Copal Mishra)

Secretary

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